1589-1640
In 1610, when Robert Loder began to keep his accounts, he had already rented Fardinges orchard since 1606. “I payd xxvjs. (26 shillings) viijd. (eightpence) by yeare for it; until I was of adge (age).
“In anno 1610. In this yeare the whole summe that my chirries were sould for was xijs. xjd (12s. 11d.).
I planted the sayd Orchard in the yeare of our Lord 1605.
Some yeares I have made of all manner profines of Fardynges … the yeares 1606,
1608 and 1610 were the profitablest. The Lorde blesseth as it pleaseth him.”
In 1620, when he ended his accounts, he was able to write:
“… Cherries I had growne in Farthinges & in the rest of our Orchardes, which were sould (besides a good number gave away & eaten by my selfe and householde & gatherers) the full sume of 64021i. (lbs).
The Lorde be praysed for such an Abundance.
The which Cherries were sould for the full summe of xxiiijl.vjs.xd.”(£24.6s.10d.) He had to pay for the gathering, and for carrying some to market, but “the rest I caryed with my owne horses, which I judge came to 26 horse loades.”
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- The work of two maid servants
David Marsh –
12 Jan 2010Robert Loder, the seventeenth-century Berkshire farmer who kept a particularly informative set of farm accounts, described the work of his two maid servants as ‘the doing of the thinges, that must indeed be donne’, and concluded that apart from making malt, they brought him little profit.from
HOUSEWIVES AND SERVANTS IN RURAL
ENGLAND, 1440-1650: EVIDENCE OF WOMEN’S WORK FROM PROBATE DOCUMENTS∗
By Jane Whittle
READ 30 APRIL 2004 AT THE UNIVERSITY OF KENT AT CANTERBURY
Sioux Boyd says
Feeling excited reading this.
Loder was my mothers maiden name,
George Loder born 1759 Dorset arrived in Australia 1791.
I have the family history of George and families donw to my 14 grandchildren.
Hoping Robert Loder is my ancestor.
Regards,
Sioux
Alex Loder says
This is quite interesting as my surname is Loder and I have gotten the book and I am sure I am related to this person but my loder tree goes past 1589 so it must be a brother or sibling of someone
Leonie Harris says
Hi Alex,
Just wondering if you would mind letting me know what ‘the book’ is that you refer to here?
Where are your Loder family from? I’m impressed and curious your tree goes past 1589.
Look forward to hearing
Warm wishes
Leonie
Leonie says
Sioux I’m thinking you and I are quite possibly related. My Paternal grandmother’s maiden name Agnes Loder born 1895 New Zealand. Her father Richard Loder born 1841 in Woodbridge Suffolk, his father John Loder bookseller and publisher 1788 Woodbridge Suffolk, his father Robert 1749 Woodbridge, Suffolk, his father Francis probably of Harwell Berks and then Harwell Berks from there back to 1557 and from there roughly connected back to Dorset in the 1300’s in the village of Loders , nr Bridport where I imagine they were ‘Loaders’ on shipping hence the name but….
I live in New Zealand, are you in Australia?
Richard Elgar says
Hello.
Really interested to come across this excerpt via a Google search.
I am currently researching my family history concentrating, at the moment, on my father’s maternal line.
I have traced family direct line back to Woodbridge, Suffolk, where my great x 3 grandfather, William Smith married Marianne Loder in 1822.
From what I have discovered so far Marianne’s father was Robert Loder born 1771, son of Francis (b 1745) and Ann Loder. From the comments I have read above it looks like Robert born in 1749 (per Leonie’s post) was brother to Francis.
Francis, Robert’s (and other brother John’s) father was another Francis, married to Mary.
Although now moved permanently to Cornwall, I originated from the Newbury area in Berkshire so was truly surprised to find my family history doing a tour of the country back to as close as Harwell! The further link to Bridport in Dorset is a further path for me to explore!
I don’t know if this comment can be emailed on to Sioux Boyd and Leonie to add anything to their own research.
Richard E
Leonie Harris says
Hello Richard
I’ve just been playing on google throwing some names in and came up with this site again and noticed your reply to mine of 2018. I’ve just picked up on genealogy during covid, something I haven’t done for a long time so I’m a bit stale.
I’d love to know how you got on with yours this past year. I imagine you haven’t been able to get out and about as you would have perhaps liked but maybe you’ve had some luck on line? Were you able to find the villages of Up Loders and Down Loders of Bridport?
Unfortunately your message didn’t come into my inbox and so it was by accident that I spotted it.
Your Marianne Smith nee Loder could well have a connection with my Loder’s of Woodbridge. I have a Loder/Smith connection in mine. Robert Loder of 1749 married 1777 Sarah Smith born 1751 of Bird Street Westminster who died 1820 Buried Woodbridge.
This Robert Loder 1749 was the founder of the family bookselling and printing/publishing business in Thoroughfare Woodbridge which in turn was taken over by his son John Loder [1788] followed by his son John Loder [1825] and finally his son Morton Loder [1859].
Thank you for posting your trail which I’m very keen to check out to see if I can find a connection.
Leonie Harris says
I’m sorry Richard that slipped away before I had quite finished off. This is Leonie [just sent the previous] and I’m looking forward to hearing from you when you have time.
I do hope this finds you and your family well.
Warm wishes to you
Leonie
Richard Elgar says
Haha, my turn this time!
By a similar random Google search I am revisiting this site and seeing Leonie’s message from just under two years ago – apologies for the delay Leonie!
I am by coincidence just returning to researching Woodbridge, Suffolk connections. My Smith line seems to have at least 5 males with ‘Talbot’ as either first or middle name. I have been pointed towards looking at the marriage and family history of a George Talbot Worthington who married a Mary Linsted in Woodbridge in 1768. I believe, since she was noted as a widow on marriage, that Mary Linsted may originally been a Mary Green who married Francis Loder in London in 1743, who, on his early death, married a George Linsted in 1754. I’m still unravelling this so it might change! Thought it might be of interest.
Best wishes for New Year.
Richard Elgar
Alex Loder says
This is great how you keep forgetting and returning,
See you lot in a couple years
Leonie Harris says
Haha to you too Richard, and ‘calling from the other side’ of the world!
I think and hope you are on to something there. I’ve been mystifying over that one for many a year… off and on… off and on seems to be a pattern here. I think I’m on task – 2 years since the last!
Linsted and/or Green has been a bit of mystery to me that I haven’t solved but fingers crossed, you sound like you could be on to it!
I’m away at the moment so not able to check what information I have around the Mary’s. Will do once I return.
Look forward to hearing…
Warm wishes
Leonie
Leonie Harris says
From old handwritten family trees, information from Record offices and LDS microfiche I searched back in the 80’s Loders of Harwell in Berkshire then Woodbridge Suffolk – in brief here …
Francis Loder Born Harwell Berks about 1718 – Died 26.7.1753 Woodbridge Suffolk [35 years]
Married 16.9.1743 Mary Green St. Benet, Pauls Wharf, London. She Da of John and Martha Green, shopkeeper of Harwell Berks.
4 children – John, Francis, Robert, John
Mary Green later married George Linstead of Woodbridge and had 4 children born Melton, Suffolk. Martha 1755, Elizabeth 1756, Sarah 1758, Hannah 1761
Have more detail on the latter from an old handwritten tree that goes back to 1557… roughly.
Hope this helps.
Leonie